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[Uh-huh. Yeah, she is definitely enthusiastic.]

Mm. [<- in a teenager tone. That's a lot to absorb, and he is absorbing it, but between his own default attitude, his sense of gravity about all of the topics on exhibit, and a touch of wariness about even friendly faces showing so much interest in deities specifically - he's definitely keeping himself at a distance.

Patron gods...right, then. Gladion steps towards the shrine half of the exhibit, not through the portal into the mock cavern but right up to it.]

So, this side is a shrine. Normally these are maintained, or - overseen by an island's kahuna. They're not kept under guard, but they're also not for the general public to walk in and out of. There's one on each island, and they're like a den for the god, where they rest.

[Sober about it because some of this is stuff he knows because he basically jumped Lele in its own house and that's - in retrospect that is kind of embarrassing.]

[Triffany is nodding and taking notes. This is more of the religious symbolism she's used to. Shrines, special locations dedicated to the local gods, the stuff you'd see in most civilizations.]

Of course, they're supposed to be dedicated to the gods protecting Alola. You can't just leave them out just anywhere. [The fact that they're here in a museum, rather back home or in a Ryslig location similar to their home leaves a bad taste in her mouth.] They're...alright sitting here?

[Even if the Fog won't allow Dialga or Palkia or anyone else, it feels a bit wrong.]

Ingo mentioned that interactions with gods have been pretty recent in his perspective. Alolan ones are more hands-off, by my guess? Which I hope means that things are okay when it comes to the humans.

[Gladion kind of shrugs at the question. He knows, like...the lore...but not much about the religious aspect. It's all very literal to him, and the replica of the gods' homes is unsettling in a "who built this and how did they know this much" way, but that's all there is to that.

As for the other question...

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WELLLLLLLLLL

Instead of answering immediately, he nods over his shoulder, invitation for Triffany to follow him as he steps into the mock cavern.]

The proportions are off, but it's not too far off from the real thing, I think. [Aside from, you know, this being obviously fake rock. Turns to the wall with the icons on it...] This is all added, though. Those are abstract drawings of the tapu. [And the photos...he points at the last one.] Kahuna Hapu was appointed not too long ago. Less than a year.

[He's winding up to an actual answer to that question! Thinking over how much he actually wants to say about it, what further questions it might invite, how relevant any of it is to the mess going on here. This is the part where he gets to it.]

Around that time, they responded to some related incidents across the islands. The kahuna didn't know why they were suddenly so much more active, so they sent someone on a ceremonial journey to make formal offerings to each one. To "appease their rage", if they'd been offended.

[This whole thing just sucks to think about. It was a mess. He was a mess.]

In reality, they were dealing with outside threats to their islands. [...] Eventually, everything worked out.

[Maybe he'll get to the details if they go downstairs. He's still doing the math on how much Ultra Lore he can safely dump.]

[Triffany follows Gladion silently - when it comes to the actual learning path, she's quiet and completely focused. She stares at the drawings to get a feel for their design and colors. There must be years' worth of stories behind their meaning, and just one kid to explain it all.]

That's the deal with Pokemon, yeah? Goin' out into the world when things look bad, whether it's an issue with time and space or a king's ego gettin' too big for his skull.

[She points to the blurb.]

But what's this about "no special regard for humans or for Pokémon"? Are they neutral forces, or are they not concerned about us when it comes to their domains?

[Something about that summary makes him feel a little Off, but the following question is its own thing to chew on.]

...I think it means that they're exactly what they're said to be. If something threatens the islands, they'll answer. They'll act on a whim, but they're not...beholden to anything not laid out in their law. Even though they're Pokemon themselves, they won't involve themselves with every little problem Pokemon have. And what humans do to each other definitely isn't their concern.

[Yes he's thinking about the fog god.]

So...they protect the land, but not necessarily the interpersonal issues, yeah? [She wonders if they can hear the prayers of the people of the islands. Is it a way to keep them grounded in one spot? Is it more for the peace of mind of the humans and Pokemon that depend on the gods for their safety?]

Yeah.

[About sums it up. That was a lesson hard-learned.

....]

If you don't mind fairy tales, there's two that might relate to that.

[AND I CAN'T IMAGINE SHE SAYS NO so let's get right into "fairy tale" (as opposed to everything until now which was Just Facts) number one:]

Before unification, each island had its own ruler. In a lot of stories, there's some kind of special relationship between the king or queen and their island's god. Who knows how true that is. [It's just stories. Maybe some of them really were like partners, and maybe some of them just made a lot of their hereditary position. Politics! Which he did not pay nearly as much attention to as "what exactly are the Tapu and can they effectively kill aliens".]

It's said they once led the royals' armies into war, and that they stopped because the damage to their islands got to be too much. [Skating over some details here...] So they left the armies to their own devices, and didn't get involved in things like that from then on. It would have been...at least four hundred years ago, if it's true.

[He knows as much history as any well-educated kid his age but that's still not enough to be able to pinpoint when, in the convoluted process of unification, that might have happened.

Also OOCly I am not NEARLY confident or well-read enough to write detailed AU Hawaiian history and it would be nearly from scratch.]

[Gladion can share more of AU Hawaii history whenever he wants, but this is good enough. Sharing one's culture is always a pleasant gift, no matter how much is actually said.]

There's often a kernel of truth in those fairy tales, Gladion. Even if they're dramatized, there's...somethin'. [She turns to the tunnel that they had passed through. An island of rich, living history, with people still living on them - it's so different from Snaktooth and Broken Tooth...]

There's a group of islands where I'm from that housed one of the oldest civilizations in the world. No one lives there anymore, but their descendants passed on their lessons and important stories through thousands of years until the present day. Their gods weren't exactly...what they believed they were, but they were still important back then, just as important as the lessons imparted on the ancient Grumpuses are important to the people that still uphold their traditions.

...But I can't really say much more on that without her around. [Man, if only she weren't whisked away to Ryslig and could continue talking with Shelda about history.]

But back to your story - was this a human war, or a Pokemon war?

[Ohhhh boy doesn't he know it.

What's her interest in this exactly, he's been wondering. Pure professional curiosity? The same questions on anyone's mind after Felfri? Or maybe this personal connection she's reflecting on has something to do with it. A friend with an ancient legacy. He...should ask, before they move on to the other wing.]

Both, sort of. The royals were human, but Pokemon were always part of the kingdoms too.
And with the tapu leading them, the wars were effectively island against island, in the stories.

[Not exactly a proxy war, as she feared when she spoke with Ingo. But it could as well have been, and that detail was lost over centuries.]

Was that the last time your gods on involved in mortal business? [A beat.] Not that you gotta know the answer, I'm just curious as to how different things are here compared to your home!

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[Ah.]

In politics, as far as I know, yeah. They didn't intervene when the monarchy fell, and as long as their laws and sacred grounds aren't violated, they don't restrict land development or anything. On the other hand, island business still involves everyone else. They still choose people to appear to, or give things to.

[He steps forward and taps the rail, with the pictures of the four kahuna.] If anyone knew just how much the tapu care, personally, about "mortal business", it'd be them. I just know what I've read, mostly.

[That's a lie but it's not a huge lie because his own experience with them has been more or less in line with the reading.]

Tapu Koko [pointing at the yellow painting] is famously curious. There are plenty of little stories about it appearing in front of someone's cousin's mother for an instant, on a whim. They hold festivals for it with tournaments because it likes to spectate battles.

[sports for gods!]

Oh, that's a sweetheart. [A yellow friend that enjoys sport events. Hopefully the fans behave themselves in its presence!] They got their own personalities, even if they're not around much. It's a shame most folks sees someone not minglin' with the crowd and think there's not much goin' on, but it sounds like your people get your gods.

[And those that are lucky enough to communicate with the Tapu would know them better. Triffany would describe it both as a high-level priest being privy to the closely-guarded lore and as a friend making the effort to know the standoffish guy.]

Wonder if that's what the Day and Night gods were like. Forces of existence, that is, although their creation of humans does make them as un-neutral as possible...

[...Calling Tapu Koko "a sweetheart" is probably perfectly valid but Gladion finds it kinda disorienting anyways.]

They are Pokemon. [speaking of which, wrt the local deities:] That's something that throws me for a loop about the Fog god - the way people talk like she doesn't actually have a body. Like a...

[...]

In our world, that is a...concept we have, in stories. Shapeless, all-powerful entities. But I've never heard of that kind of god ever being proven to exist. Not like all the spirits and deities and legends that turn out to be real Pokemon, or always were.

[thinks about Day and Night.

Also looks over his shoulder at Triffany.]

Is that your goal? Understanding the gods' war better?

[There's a lot of metaphysical concepts that Triffany still doesn't understand. Archaeology looks at solid facts and written history, not esoteric concepts. There are no dead people or gods to talk to. Ryslig has been a challenge for her so far, and it seems that the Fog God is similarly new for Gladion.]

I suppose so. Why wouldn't I wanna understand the events that lead up to...all this? [She waves a hand at the door leading out of this exhibit.]

[He shrugs, because that's a way better answer than saying he Provisionally Suspected Her of Nebulous Motives and/or Schemes.]

In that case, I'll hold onto the second fairy tale for later. After we look at something else.

[With that: let's head to the second wing of the exhibit. Ignore the ominous DIMENSIONAL RESEARCH IN PROGRESS door for now. This side is...way more self-explanatory and museum-like. And concrete. Photos! Artifacts! Explanations! Go nuts, Triffany. Gladion's going to trail along behind her for a minute or two to see if she has any immediate questions. If she wants to do a full sweep first instead, he'll go sit down on the Silvally statue platform to wait.]

[What a curious sign! Triffany has so many questions about its presence, but that might lead to another two hours of questions, and she's already talked with Dr. Robotnik about his thoughts on dimensional portals. Gladion is safe from her prying. She focuses on the "Living with Pokemon" section for ten minutes - images of a world where two intelligent species coexist in harmony.]

Gosh, humans and monsters, humans and Pokemon...they were created to live together, even if they were made by different gods. Wish Ryslig could've protected its own population like you did...

[Her thoughts have her wander towards the section on current challenges.] And of course, no society is free of any conflict or greed. Even in my own world, we got invasive animals and misuse of land going on, not to mention the-

war? [She recalls asking Ingo about the use of Pokemon in proxy wars, which he replied in the negative, but the abuse of Pokemon as soldiers sure sounds like they're being treated as tools.]

[Wish Ryslig could've - yeah, that's his bugbear. He leans on statue-Silvally's leg and listens.

War?]

Modern times are a lot more peaceful than just a few centuries ago. War between regions and nations isn't as common.

[He turns to see what she's looking at - oh. That one.]

...We have petty crime, just like here. And common Pokemon can be a lot more threatening than a knife or gun.

[So there's that. But that signboard had something about "ideological conflicts", right? So it's talking about more than just Pokemon being used to mug people.]

There's also...this can't be too different from anywhere else. People want things to go their way, they'll break things to get it. [Not war! Just antisocial activities, terrorism and government takeovers and the like!] If Pokemon will listen to you, you can go as far as they'll take you. [Turns back around.] And if they won't - plenty of people look for ways around that. Raise them from the egg to be loyal. Regular old coercion, same as with humans. Threaten them with other Pokemon. Or find technological methods.

[Which he'd rather not go into because those not existing is a good thing actually!]

I guess I'd be afraid of a Muk over a knife, that's for sure. [Though she wonders if the Muk, capable of having his own thoughts, would act more like a lackey than a weapon.] You've seen a lot of this happen where you're from?

[She folds her hands together.] Oh, I'm just wondering because...it's a completely different way of looking at things, compared to how I usually make my theories about the past. The stuff we dig up doesn't say much on their own, but you gotta make assumptions in order to piece together the full picture. I'm sure I still don't really get how life changes when you grow up with all these possibilities around ya.

Makes sense. [Like, having been hanging around Ingo, the first part parses. And the second - that's what each weird little revelation he has about life in Ryslig, without Pokemon, feels like. He's living it.

Anyways.] Alola's pretty peaceful, but you hear things from overseas. Criminal syndicates funding shady technologists. Sending Pokemon berserk and siccing them on...I don't know, people, to make an example of them? [He's 15. The "things you hear from overseas" are kind of limited when you only occasionally listen to the news and don't have an enormous amount of context.

There's Team Skull, who definitely caused trouble with and sometimes for Pokemon, but...not really in the way that the sign is describing. They stole to live, but their Pokemon were just their Pokemon, as far as he ever knew. Even taking over Po Town was just...maybe that counts, but thinking of that just makes a weird weight manifest in his chest. It's over for them; let it go.

Which just leaves Aether. Mother, and Faba. Silvally, and Cosmog.

...Not right now.]

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[Maybe let's not drop all the horrors that humans are capable of onto a teenager.]

Violent crime as usual, across universes and time. It just exists differently when Pokemon are involved. [One set of arms shrug.]

And this? [She waves a third arm towards the Statue.] Is that one of the gods of Alola?

No, uh. [He'd already resolved to just tell the truth here if she asked; he will Not downplay Silvally! That's a resolution. Still, he "uh"s it because it's just that little bit awkward.] That's my partner, Silvally. The one "personal touch" this place has, I guess.

[He got off so easy in terms of voyeuristic bullshit, compared to some of the other stuff in here.]

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